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[hitman_4]

[john_constantine]

Slušam kolegu koji ima dvoje djece i ne vidim logiku. Njegova djeca žele pričest i firmu, ali da bi to mogli imati, moraju redovito hodati na misu. I sada su mu klinci "prisiljeni" hodati na misu. A usput se još i žali što je morao upisati djecu na vjeronauk i da je besmislen predmet. Ali djeca mu moraju imati pričest i firmu?

[John_Ryder]

Slušam kolegu koji ima dvoje djece i ne vidim logiku. Njegova djeca žele pričest i firmu, ali da bi to mogli imati, moraju redovito hodati na misu. I sada su mu klinci "prisiljeni" hodati na misu. A usput se još i žali što je morao upisati djecu na vjeronauk i da je besmislen predmet. Ali djeca mu moraju imati pričest i firmu?

http://www.24sata.hr/sokantno/zupnik-tr ... ova-452077

nema zajebancije s vjerom

[boyko]

lešinari

[Michel]

Ne znam jel gledate nekad na youtube one kanale koji se bave sa top 5 listama, ali uglavnom čudni i neobjašnjivi slučajevi. Dosta toga gledam sa kanala Dark5 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRQeby ... O5h0eWEVhw i sad sam pogledao jedan njegov video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV-JbImXtu0 pod broj 5 i pogotovo pod broj 1 mi je

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_clan_incest_case
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... alley.html

Ima dosta jezivih videa.

[John_Ryder]

ja dark 5 pratim stalno, odlični su

[Michel]

Evo što još pratim. Reddit i misterije https://www.reddit.com/r/UnsolvedMysteries/ ima stvarno zanimljivh slučajeva. I ova odlična stranica http://mysteriousuniverse.org/ gdje istražitelji amateri pišu što detaljnije.

[olio]

ja pratim https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/
puno je aktivniji od unsolvedmysteries

[Michel]

Još mi je bilo čudno kako samo ima 19 tisuća, a ovo što si ti stavio 125 tisuća. A to je isto, samo se drugačije zove zbog jednog slova.

Sad čitam ovo https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMyst ... vanishing/ volim takve čudne i bizarne slučajeve.

[Michel]

I da stavim ovo pa i bih i to volio da istražite malo ako niste. Napisao prošle godine viewtopic.php?p=341045#p341045 - http://www.horrorhr.com/tamnica/viewtop ... 45#p341045

Da vam ispričam nešto što me danas ujutro fasciniralo. Uvijek sam budan do 6, 7, a nekad i oko 7 pogledam horor za dobro jutro. Pogledam Willow Creek (preporuka) i kako poslije svakog filma volim malo istražiti o filmu i naiđm na jednu knjigu koja je povezana sa nestalim ljudima.

Uvijek sam znao da jednostavno godišnje previše nestaje ljudi, još otkad je to Dean Warick govorio i kasnije ubijen vjerojatno zbog toga i pričao da vlade odnose djecu, rade se strašne stvari i tako.

Naiđem na ime David Paulides i njegovu knjigu Missing 411, a to je prva knjig iz te nekakve trilogije. Prvo me zanimalo samo sadržaj. I pročitam

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Missing-411 is the first comprehensive research about people who have disappeared in the wilds of North America. It’s understood that people routinely get lost and some want to disappear, but this story is about the unusual. Nobody has ever studied the archives for similarities, traits and geographical clusters of missing people, until now.



A tip from a national park ranger led to this 4+ years and a 9000 hour investigative effort into understanding the stories behind people who have vanished. The book chronicles children, adults and the elderly who disappeared, sometimes in the presence of friends and relatives. As Search and Rescue personnel exhaust leads and places to search, relatives start to believe kidnappings and abductions have occurred. The belief by the relatives is not an isolated occurrence; it replicates itself time after time, case after case across North America.



The research depicts 28 clusters of missing people across the continent, something that has never been exposed and was a shocking find to researchers. Topography does play a part into the age of the victims and certain clusters have specific age and sex consistency that is baffling. This is not a phenomenon that has been occurring in just the last few decades, clusters of missing people have been identified as far back as the 1800’s.



The manuscript for the research was extremely large so the story was split between two books, Missing 411 Western United States and Canada and Missing 411 Eastern United States. The Eastern version will be released in late March and will include a list of all missing people in each edition and a concluding chapter that draws both books together for conclusions.



Some of the issues that are discussed in each edition:

• The National Park Service attitude toward missing people

• How specific factors in certain cases replicate themselves in different clusters

• Exposing cases involving missing children that aren’t on any national database

• Unusual behavior by bloodhounds/canines involved in the search process

• How storms, berries, swamps, briar patches, boulder fields and victim disabilities play a role in the disappearance

• The strategies of Search and Rescue personnel need to change under specific circumstances



After reading this book, you will forever walk in the woods with a different awareness.



Rerviews:





"Major news organizations do a deplorable job of covering

stories and issues which are deemed too unusual

or too far outside the box. Chances are, they will find a way

to trivialize or ignore the disturbing evidence accumulated

by David Paulides, a former lawman turned investigative

journalist. The paper trail uncovered by Paulides through

sheer doggedness is impressive, the evidence indisputable.

People are vanishing without a trace from our national

parks and forests, yet government agencies are saying nothing.

At a minimum, this story deserves space on the front

page of every newspaper in the country, and it warrants a

formal high level inquiry by the federal agencies whose files

leave little doubt that something very strange is unfolding

in our wilderness."

George Knapp, Host, Coast to Coast AM

Znači, on je u tim nekim krugovima poznati istraživać i bio je mislim policajac, neki dužnosnik i kasnije (danas) se posvetio istraživanju nestalih ljudi u nacionalnim parkovima diljem amerike/kanade. To istraživanje je trajalo preko 7000 tisuća sati i sve je to sažeo sa činjenicama. I stvarno, samo činjenice. Znači, on u knjizi nikad nije tvrdio koja je njegova teorija o tome iako je davao hintove o bigfootu ili nekom drugom čudovištu. Ima dosta teorija i o UFO-ima.

On spomene ime i prezime nestale osobe, opiše štose dogodilo. Dakle, samo činjenice pa tako kaže da najviše nestaju mala djeca koja kad se nađu (neka brzo), nađu se na planinama, a u tom vremenskom roku je nemoguće da su se ta mala djeca mogla naći tamo. Ili što mi je jpš zanimljivije, što uopće ne upućuje na bigfoote ili takve slične teorije, da ih nađu potpuno čistima, bez odjeća. Da ima takvih scena koje nemaju normalna objašnjenja.

Još veća sumnja ide to što u tim parkovima su vojnici, jako naoružani, a vlada uporno šuti o tome. Kao da nitko ne želi da se saznaje o tome iako je nevjerojatan broj ljudi koji govore o tome. Eto, čak i u medijima, na vijestima voditelji govore o tome, ali se opet brzo zaboravi.

Jedan zanimljiv komentar

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What was creepy about the book was not so much the stories about people who disappeared forever — after all, I read and write about missing people every day — but about people, mostly children, who disappeared and then were found in places where they should not, could not, be. Mind you, many of the adult disappearances were creepy too, but it was the children that struck me: small children and toddlers vanishing from campsites, etc., and turning up far outside the search grid, miles away and thousands of feet uphill. In one case, a kid turned up twelve miles away, nineteen hours after he disappeared, with numerous fences and creeks and two mountains between him and the place he’d disappeared from. Many adults could not have walked that far over that kind of terrain in that amount of time. I’m pretty sure I couldn’t. This boy was two. What. The. Fuck.

The children were often naked or semi-naked when found (but none of their missing clothes were ever located) and sometimes they were covered in scratches but sometimes they didn’t have a scratch on them. If they were dead the cause of death was generally given as exposure, dehydration etc. If they were alive they were often in remarkably good shape for the time they’d been missing and either couldn’t remember any of it, or told some very strange stories.

Obviously, it would be difficult if not impossible for a two-year-old or whatever to walk for miles and climb thousands of feet up steep mountainsides in rugged wilderness areas. It also defies logic: lost children tend to travel downhill, that being the path of least resistance, and if they’re old enough they also realize civilization is in that direction. Furthermore, if by some miracle a child was able to travel that far undetected, you’d think they would have considerable scratches, scrapes etc. on them. This was often not the case. Some of the children were barefoot when they disappeared and barefoot when they were located, but their feet were in good condition, not like you’d expect from someone who’d walked all that way in the woods or mountains or desert. The implication is that these children were carried to wherever they were found.

Undoubtedly some of these cases, both deaths and disappearances, must be foul play, abductions. In fact, both Thomas Bowman and Bruce Kremen, two of the people profiled in the book, are presumed victims of the serial killer Mack Ray Edwards, a fact Paulides fails to mention (an odd omission on his part, IMHO). It’s equally likely that at least a few of the disappearances and deaths are suicides. But certainly those theories cannot explain all of them.

When Paulides wrote about Michelle Vanek, an adult woman who vanished without a trace during a mountain climbing trip (and whose disappearance is much creepier than I realized), he carefully discusses and then rules out foul play at the hands of her climbing partner, natural causes, or even the idea that she’s still on the mountain somewhere — he says tracker dogs couldn’t pick up a scent, the mountain had no trees and it was “saturated with searchers” as well as helicopters. No one ever found a trace of her, not even one of her ski poles. Paulides concludes, “Something catastrophic happened to Michelle Vanek, something that none of us could have probably survived.” I’m in agreement there…but what was the “catastrophe” that happened?

The book is sold by the North American Bigfoot Search website and the author has written books about Bigfoot, so I figured he would implicate Bigfoot in some of the disappearances. Although he never actually says “Bigfoot” he does imply it on several occasions. Bigfoot or some other unknown wild creature. (He discusses known wild creatures, bears and stuff, but says their behavior would not lead to these kind of events.) Or something else, something paranormal, evil — something that seems to be hunting people. And, if everything he writes in this book is accurate, I can’t say he’s wrong.

Equally disturbing is the National Park Service’s attitude about people missing on their land. They do not keep adequate records of disappearances and don’t even have any list of all the people that vanished and are still missing from their parks. Paulides claims they blocked most of his efforts to research his book and told him they’d do the research themselves, if he paid them $37,000. He also believes they’re too quick to write off an MP as dead — perhaps, he says, it’s so they can close the case and forget about it. And if a person turns up, even under bizarre circumstances (like the two-year-old marathoner I mentioned above), there is no further investigation. The two-year-old was pretty much dusted off and handed back to his parents.

I understand the NPS is not a law enforcement agency, but their refusal to even keep a list of people who have gone missing seems quite negligent. I understand they don’t want to scare people away from visiting the parks, but they ought to be equally concerned about visitor safety

A taj nacionalni park je odbio dati popis nestalih osoba što su dobili i tužbu kasnije i opet nisu dali jer se sve bacilo pod tepih. Počeli se javljati i ti vojnici kojima je dosta svega i koji kažu da je nemoguće da osoba nestane, a da ju vojska ne nađe. Da obični ljudi ni ne mogu zamisliti koja je to današnja tehnologija koju oni imaju. Toliko su opremljeni da bi jednostavno morali naći te osobe.

I taj pisac se bavi i istražuje svaku nestalu osobu. Prošle godine u 12. mjesecu je nestao Token Adams, vatrogasac. http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/201 ... 56458.html

Ima puno podcasta na youtubu gdje on gostuje i govori o tome. Stvarno jezivo i zamislit se pogotovo zbog tih nama neobjašnjivih pronalazaka i gdje se pronađu i na koji način pa onda kako je tamo naoružana vojska, kako ovi odbijaju da se išta sazna. Sve više ljudi govore o tome.

http://beforeitsnews.com/paranormal/201 ... 56458.html - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX3_IWM4uXg - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRbF3HV_7C8

Zasad ta tri pogledao, sad idem dalje, a ima dosta toga. Sad odoh ovaj https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOBqQ9eP91I

These are so strange, though; small children, age 3, are found 18 miles from their homes. There are no signs of sexual abuse. The children and adults, if found, have very hazy memories. They have been out in the snow for a day or two and found dry and clean. The victims often go uphill, which is contrary to SAR experience. Shoes are almost always missing. The disappearances can happen in groups, in what seems like a split second (all of these are documented) and instant searches, massive searches without thousands of people and advanced FLIR find nothing. Then strangely, the person is never found or found in a place that has been heavily searched. Even extremely experienced hikers, campers and hunters disappear. It's worth a look.

To sam danima o tome čitao, i prezanimljivo. A ima pregršt dokaza sa dosta bizarnih elemenata.

[hitman_4]

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nigdje ga nema



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[Michel]

Ne znam što je smješnije, Zrinka ili ova kraljica i svo to kraljevstvo. Ne znam kako to uopće može netko poštovati, a kad vidim koliko engleza poštuju tako nešto iako ima i onih koji su protiv toga. Možda bi i meni bilo normalno da sam odgojen u engleskoj, ali jebeš to stvarno ne kuim ljude koji se dive toj kraljici i tom kraljevstvu, svom tom jebenom bogatstvu, a toliko siromašnih i onda je svako obraćanje kraljice, rpinca popraćeno sa mali milijun fanova, svi mediji uključeni. Svijet u kurcu. I Zrinka isto

[HorrorHR]

ček nisam pratio, jel ta zrinka postoji ili je samo izmišljeno ime za neka prevađanja sa opskurnih sajtova?

[Decadentor]

Zeljka je veca misterija nego njene kolumne

[john_constantine]

Najjače mi ono za film Noa...