Fargo(2014- )

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Re: Fargo(2014- )

Post by Michel » 03 Dec 2023, 20:05

S kim se ti boriš čovječe :lol:

Evo našao sam još zanimljivih komentara s popularnog imdba koji je popularniji od bilo kojeg hrvatskog foruma.
I cannot stand Juno Temple who as Keeley on Ted Lasso was one of the worst characters on TV. Her fronting the new series of Fargo, and sporting an absolutely terrible accent, is not the recipe for a good season.

The whole "I was having a bad day" bit is not nearly as funny as the writer's room seemed to believe it was.

The scenes at the gas station and in the house were not exactly perfectly crafted fight sequences.
Generally this first episode was underwhelming. On the surface it seems Fargo goes back to what it did best in earlier seasons, but it just does it weaker. Even though it's a bit early to judge, I feel my confidence in the writing is waning because a lot of the moments and character reactions just feel too fake. It's not the fake 'Minnesota' niceness that bothers me but mainly how far the characters are removed from reality in general. Almost every single character is just weird, maybe only the 'Indian' cop is a somewhat believable human being. I don't feel any of this setup episode is grounded to the point the 'This is a true story' gimmick just feels absurd now. (I know that statement has always been fake. But it used to serve a purpose before.)
What's now the usual trope of the heroic woman and the dumb or evil white men formula gets boring and is frankly rather irritating to watch after so many years, we get enough on the adverts. Hopefully it will improve but sadly somehow I doubt it. Using Easter eggs from the original movie to add interest is easily done and not really inventive. Added a suited girl & a baddie wearing a dress for some reason. I'll watch a couple more to see if it gets better but the first episode just made me sigh with disappointment after a long wait. Didn't want to be so negative about it, it just fits a formula I've become averse to nowadays.
Kao što se vidi, argumenti u puno konkretniji i već je suglasnost na redditu i imdbu da ovu sezonu mogu samo voljeti feminstkinje i muški feministi koji su naravno jako feminizirani.

Uh, jedva čekam pogledat drugu epizodu da vidim kakvo me sranje očekuje :kokicarenje:
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Re: Fargo(2014- )

Post by hitman_4 » 03 Dec 2023, 20:58

bio ti je popularan dok te moderator i ikona titlova lemonzo nije potjerao :zubifale:
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Re: Fargo(2014- )

Post by John_Ryder » 03 Dec 2023, 21:06

ufff ovo moram skinuti
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Re: Fargo(2014- )

Post by Michel » 03 Dec 2023, 21:09

Pošto nisi muški feminist, sumnjam da ćeš uživati ali ako kojim slučajem budeš uživao, onda si stopostotni muški feminist. Vidjet ćeš sve ovo što sam napisao. Svaka ženska u prvoj epizodi je superheroj, imaju glupe muževe/dečke koji su nesposobni, a ostali BIJELI muškarci su glupi kriminalci i zle osobe. Nema niti jedne dobre muške osobe osim debelog crnca koji je policajac. Stvarno smiješno. A koliko čitam, lik kojeg glumi Hamm je nekakav alfa šovinist onak klišej do klišeja. Pogledat će se i ostatak, samo da vidim kako će se sve ovo odvijati.
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Re: Fargo(2014- )

Post by John_Ryder » 03 Dec 2023, 21:12

Michel wrote:
03 Dec 2023, 21:09
Pošto nisi muški feminist, sumnjam da ćeš uživati ali ako kojim slučajem budeš uživao, onda si stopostotni muški feminist. Vidjet ćeš sve ovo što sam napisao. Svaka ženska u prvoj epizodi je superheroj, imaju glupe muževe/dečke koji su nesposobni, a ostali BIJELI muškarci su glupi kriminalci i zle osobe. Nema niti jedne dobre muške osobe osim debelog crnca koji je policajac. Stvarno smiješno. A koliko čitam, lik kojeg glumi Hamm je nekakav alfa šovinist onak klišej do klišeja. Pogledat će se i ostatak, samo da vidim kako će se sve ovo odvijati.

pa gle koliko pohvala na forum.hr
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Re: Fargo(2014- )

Post by hitman_4 » 03 Dec 2023, 21:20

nema negativnih komentara zato što je moderator lemonzo potjerao michela sa forum hr. sad se negdje grize što ne može trolati na seriju
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Re: Fargo(2014- )

Post by Michel » 03 Dec 2023, 21:27

John_Ryder wrote:
03 Dec 2023, 21:12
Michel wrote:
03 Dec 2023, 21:09
Pošto nisi muški feminist, sumnjam da ćeš uživati ali ako kojim slučajem budeš uživao, onda si stopostotni muški feminist. Vidjet ćeš sve ovo što sam napisao. Svaka ženska u prvoj epizodi je superheroj, imaju glupe muževe/dečke koji su nesposobni, a ostali BIJELI muškarci su glupi kriminalci i zle osobe. Nema niti jedne dobre muške osobe osim debelog crnca koji je policajac. Stvarno smiješno. A koliko čitam, lik kojeg glumi Hamm je nekakav alfa šovinist onak klišej do klišeja. Pogledat će se i ostatak, samo da vidim kako će se sve ovo odvijati.

pa gle koliko pohvala na forum.hr
Komentari na forumu haer o novoj sezoni :lol: doslovno je samo 6 ljudi komentiralo epizode koje su izašle. Ovdje nas je komentiralo 3, a puno smo manji forum. Na imdbu i redditu puno više ljudi i razočaranja.

I evo ti tih 6 ljudi sa foruma haer komentiralo kakvi su komentari.
ogleda san prvu

Sta ja znam, nije me nesto izulo iz cipela, al nije ni lose
Za sada nisam odusevljen, vidit cemo dalje
Pogledala ove dvije koje su izašle. Nije loše.
Pogledao sam ep1. Predobro. Fargo i dalje jedna od najboljih serija ikada.
Super prve dvije. Hamm u bačvi i šamar odvjetnika su mi top.
Sve već viđeno. Blago razočaranje.
Ajmo redom. Prvi komentar nije loše, ali nije ni dobro. Kad netko kaže nije loše znači odmah da i nije dobro. Prosječno je. Drugi i treći komentar ista stvar, drugi nije oduševljen dakle prosječno, a treći nije loše dakle prosječno. Četvrti komentar je super pozitivan ali za tog forumaša se zna da je feminizirani gejša. Peti komentar isto super pozitivan ali za tog forumaša se zna da komentira sapunice i to turske, meksičke a to rade isključivo gejše i muški feministi. I šesti komentar, kao što vidiš loše.

Dakle, od 6 ljudi koje je komentiralo, 3 komentara su da je to prosječno, dva pozitivna i jedan loš. Sad ti meni reci, kako su to dobri komentari :zubifale:

Ajd pogledaj pa da vidimo jel isto uočavaš ovo što i ja i jel imaš muški mozak ili ženski (sviđa ti se peta sezona).
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Re: Fargo(2014- )

Post by hitman_4 » 03 Dec 2023, 21:39

najžešći komentar da je sve već viđeno, nitko ne piše o feminizmu. a ti zbog mracne proslosti dok si harao forum hr i agresivno nametao svoja mišljenja o predviđanju potresa od 1.5 po rihteru ne možeš pisati. koliko god otvorio profila moderator i prevoditelj lemonzo automatski prepozna ip i ban, ban :zubifale:
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Re: Fargo(2014- )

Post by hitman_4 » 08 Dec 2023, 22:27

dobra 4. epizoda

kak je šerif rješio slučaj :zubifale:
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Re: Fargo(2014- )

Post by Michel » 23 Dec 2023, 10:54

Trials and Tribulations - kakav woke trash od epizode. Nevjerojatan feministički crap, ali s uživancijom ću pogledati ovu sezonu samo da mogu srati protiv ovog sranja sa Netflixa, a na tom Netflixu sve mora biti woke. Jebote, otvaranje epizode ismijavanje kršćanstva i tradicionalnih vrijednosti naravno bijeli muškarac negativac. Ne postoji u ove dvije epizode bijeli muškarac koji je dobar. Ili su zli, ili su najveći mogući papučari. Čak i ono dvoje dobrih policajaca jedna je žensko, a drugi je latinoamerikanac :lol: oni si ne mogu dozvoliti da neki bijeli muškarac bude spasitelj. Odvratno je ovo postalo. A tek ova si gradi doma kao da je Kevin iz sam u kući pa nevjerojatno. Cijela ova sezona je karikatura od likova i scena. Je, braća Coen vole svoje likove raditi kao karikature, i Fargo je takav, ali ne u ovolikoj mjeri. Jebote, ajd da je jedna, dvije stvari i eto neka bude bijeli muškarac negativac, ali da je svaki ili zao ili papučar dok suprotne strane svi su super. 4/10

I nisam jedini koji je to skužio, evo pogledajte ove komentare
Every single white man is either incompetent, evil or a cuck. Every single woman is brave, competent, in charge/bitch boss. 90 pounds soaking wet woman protagonist manhandling men twice the size. Diverse characters the same treatement.

Im not even exagerating.
Too many coincidences, its not only one case of this happening, its everywhere.

Hospital scence, episode 5, 2 hospital personnel attending at the counter, white man, fat uninterested, eating some junk food not paying attention to anything, woman, paying attention, competent, understands whats going on and calls out that the clearly evil guys are passing through.

When this happens all the time, everywhere, sorry, but its just not a coincidence anymore.



Protagonist's husband is the cuckest of the cuckest, to the point you start feeling bad for him.
Recognizing if something is "woke" or not requires nuance, Buffy the vampire slayer for example wasnt woke at all, despite having her beating the shit out of many men twice or triple the size, granted she had superpowers I think. The show also depicted a lesbian relationship, no problems with that at all, it wasn't shoved down your throat and at the same time depicting heterosexual relationships as flawed and toxic, while only LGBTQ relationships as righteous and pure.

It's not what is presented to you, but how, which requires you to be able to think a bit.
I completely agree, buffy was great and not woke, this season of fargo is, this fargo season is introducing a record amount of incompetent men and boss women, people on the left will not have a conversation in good faith about these things, they’ve been programmed pretty effectively and getting through to them is usually not going to happen all at once, they think they’re in the right and in the majority from watching cnn and other curated cult indoctrination material mixed with censorship on social media shutting down the other side of conversation, most are juvenile useful idiots, out of shape, mental problems
Alright, the two main antagonists are two parodies of republican archetypes:
* The evil rich republican CEO politician who likes guns and money (I guess the fact that it's a woman could be seen as some argument that not all women in the show are good strong and perfect)
* The evil redneck corrupt sheriff who hates everyone who isn't a white man

I was like, well I guess in the 80's all the villains had to be Russians and today they have to be republican, just have to get with the times.

Then of course the protagonist's daughter is named Scotty and hate everything that's girly, and I suppose that's also comes with the times. Gender roles are horrible and all that.

I had no problem with them making the female protagonist some sort of MacGyver meets Black Widow disguised as a housewife, thought it was really cool and well executed.

Then of course her husband has to be the most useless piece of wet cloth in the history of television, to the point where you feel sorry for him, although the tragedy is mostly portrayed as some sort of slapstick.

Then I realise the female supporting actor is also a strong black police woman, who's forced to provide for her good for nothing husband who's wasting all their money on his pro-golf aspirations that's obviously not going anywhere.

So when episode 5 opens up with the evil female CEO antagonist having to meet up with two fat bankers who refuse to talk to her because she's a woman it's beyond being "a little on the nose", and more like the show's bashing you in the face with a brick that says "girls rule, boys drool".
OMG thi is so true you should watch S05E06 it is unbearable, 10 minutes of cuck rant ''I want a wife, a wife that cleans for me and cooks for me'' FFS it was wayyy too in your face HAHA
It's way too obvious. Every scene. I'm on episode 5. It's so disappointing. Wondering if it will ever stop
So now that the newest episode has come out and they have showed another scene of a man painted as being extremely incompetent who is also painted as being in the wrong for wanting a wife who is more feminine, and then in another scene they literally show trump and try to make it seem like the people supporting him are ignorant inferior people, now that that’s happened and the show has shown beyond argument that it is woke and has a weird kind of cult like leftist messaging in it, are you able to see it yet, or still denying it? Yea it’s the fargo show, it has elements of the fargo movie, crime in fargo, but it has done weird things in this season that are not inherently fargo and are inherently woke, if you can’t see it it’s because you don’t want to, you probably have a strong bias
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He doesn't just want a feminine wife, he wants a completely obedient wife almost worse than a slave, he goes on for 10 minutes I couldn't believe it. That scene is the wokest thing I have ever seen on tv. Is this fargo or a woke masterclass ?
Znači šesta epizoda je najveći woke.
s05e06 is the wokest piece of television I have ever seen.
For those who doubt it, just watch it. I'm on episode 5. It's a shit smeared travesty. Up until season 3, this was an amazing show. I don't care to go into detail. I'm frankly tired of thinking about it. I'm halfway through episode 5, that's where I'll end it too.
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Oh my god, I just watched S05E06 and came to this conclusion too, you should watch it, that ep alone is something else. All te men are completely dumb, violent abusive, and all the women are bad ass. LOL its pathetic I quit fargo for ever.
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Re: Fargo(2014- )

Post by hitman_4 » 23 Dec 2023, 15:47

5. sezona je u rangu sopranosa, žice i propalog deadwooda :supz:
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Re: Fargo(2014- )

Post by hitman_4 » 25 Dec 2023, 14:19

6. epka kakvo pišanje po onima koji trumpa smatraju isusom koji je ponovno došao na zemlju. remek djelo u rangu sopranosa, žice :prayer:

btw mojoj makedonki se ne sviđa serija, al ona niš ne gleda
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Re: Fargo(2014- )

Post by John_Ryder » 25 Dec 2023, 17:12

hitman_4 wrote:
25 Dec 2023, 14:19
6. epka kakvo pišanje po onima koji trumpa smatraju isusom koji je ponovno došao na zemlju. remek djelo u rangu sopranosa, žice :prayer:

btw mojoj makedonki se ne sviđa serija, al ona niš ne gleda
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Re: Fargo(2014- )

Post by Michel » 26 Dec 2023, 10:13

The Paradox of Intermediate Transactions - u trećoj su me izgubili kako jadna epizoda. Totalni mes, ne zna se ko pije a ko plaća. Najsmješniji mi je onaj karikatura od ubojice pa vraćanje u 16. stoljeće HA HA HA kakva pretencioznost. Juno u gluho doba noći skida imena ulica i dom priprema sa zamkama i to je ozbiljna serija :facepalm: 3.5/10
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Re: Fargo(2014- )

Post by Michel » 29 Dec 2023, 00:15

Insolubilia - ovi stvarno ne znaju gdje udaraju. Znači, ženskica od 50 kila pobijedi četiri odrasla utrenirana muškarca. I to ih pobijedi i nadmudri sa doslovno zamkama iz sam u kući bez zajebancije. Ja shvaćam u Avengersima kada Black Widow isprebija više muškaraca jer je to superhero film. Ok, ona nema supermoći ali to je svijet superheroja, strip i prihvatiš. Isto kao kad kod horor filmova prihvatimo da postoje čudovišta. Isto kao kod znanstveno FANTASTIČNOG filma prihvatimo tu fikciju. No, Fargo je serija koja je drama (krimi), i tu stvari moraju biti realne. Može onda biti istrenirana tigrica, ali nema jebene šanse da tako pobijedi. Feminističko smeće od sezone. 2/10

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Just finished the first 4 episodes and although the charm missing from S4 is back, the plot is aweful tbh. Ive watched so many good crime shows Im very sensitive to plot holes and I could already pick out a few significant ones. The way all the characters got dumbed down around the Dot for her character to shine is annoying af tbh. It feels like a game when all the bad guy got 30 IQ points reduced whenever in a scene with this woman to show how much of a “tiger” she is. I love the billionaire mom for what she is but she also suddenly makes absolutely idiotic decisions at the end of E4.

With a bit more luck Dot can probaly walk bare feet to the white house and bring down the fucking USA lmao. Whats the point then? Gonna watch one more episode and if its the same trope then I’d pass.

Edit: watching episode 5. Dot escaped from the hospital, walk to the mom’s house. Take the daughter. Walking to the police personal house, get in the kitchen and have a chat later on with the police.

She has a super power to be invisible and tele transport on her feet and know the address of the police when she wants to. If you are into super power then you will enjoy the show. Id pass
It’s really bad. Bad acting. Bad writing. Plot holes left and right. Step mom is beyond cheesy and bad line delivery. Hands down worst season. I’d be happy for Fargo to not come back after this and I have LOVED the show until now.
OP is right about Dot. They had her moving like some special ops before. It’s absolutely ridiculous. The plot is trash. Stepmom and police officers acting is cringe.
Im not loving it. Why did the narrator feel it was necessary to teach us the barest basic understanding of what a tiger is and then insultingly spell out the word tiger for us? How did Dot escape from her hospital bed restraints immediately after her captor tightened 2 out of 3 of them? Why is the golf husband such a 2 dimensional POS and why would she just accept his ridiculous critique of her with a 'we'll talk about this later'? Why didnt the home invader just turn his head sideways to slip under the attic ladders bottom rung? Why does Wayne's amnesia make no logical sense? Love you three?! Jesus

Dot does seem to border on super human sometimes which is mildly irritating. But the cringy writing and plot holes are so much worse. How many bathrooms have a window you can escape from? Especially in a hospital?? I am happy to suspend my disbelief in many circumstances. But its been required of me so often in this season that now I dont want to suspend it at all anymore
If someone likes this season, they are either gay or feminist
that's so true, i'm gay and i love this season so much!
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