Rob Zombie's Halloween

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Post by john_constantine » 27 Aug 2007, 20:08

HorrorFanatic wrote:
john_constantine wrote:jebote, pa tko mu je dizajnirao odjeću? Elton john? :wink:
Ummm, to mu je kostim za Noć Vještica... Što nije očito...?
hm, meni prije izgleda kao odjeća za norijadu. :rotflmao:
Michel puši karu.

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Post by HorrorHR » 28 Aug 2007, 00:22

http://horrorsnotdead.com/wpress/2007/r ... our-movie/
Rob Zombie, The Internet is in Your Workprint, Downloading Your Movie
August 27th 2007 @ 4:36 pmRants, News

This is only fair. I pointed it out when it happened to Hostel 2 and I’ll do the same thing for Halloween.

Earlier today a workprint of Halloween hit the ‘tubes, equipped with watermarks and all. Just as with Hostel 2, I will not download said print, nor do I condone downloading it, but I will definitely acknowledge the internet perpetually getting a one up on, well, everything.

This, however, I will confess to; I watched the streamed sample from said workprint that is going around. Mentioned clip is certainly not one of the many the studio has released. You know how you can tell? It is has nothing to do with the blurred watermark across the top and everything to do with the fact that it is repulsively terrible, conclusive proof that Rob Zombie has, quite literally if you watch the clip, just raped the rare perfection John Carpenter invented in 1978. He didn’t even just rape it, he went Aftermath on it. I also believe it is impossible to put that clip in any kind of context where it works, so I don’t even want to hear that excuse.

I am still going to be there opening night, giving my hard earned dimes to someone who might as well steal it directly from my wallet via the anus, but believe me it is ONLY out of obligation to review it. I will still give the movie a fair shake - believe it or not, I am still capable of being objective even with evidence like this - but FUCK!

HOW IN THE FUCK DOES THIS PASS!? HOW IN THE FUCK

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Post by Boby » 28 Aug 2007, 11:25

Evo, koga zanima nek pročita prvu recenziju konačne verzije filma. Recenzija sama po sebi ne otkriva previše detalja o samome filmu tak da se može čitati bez straha kako će neke bitne stvari biti razotkrivene

Saw Halloween last night thought I’d chime in with my thoughts. First off a bit of background. While I’m a big fan of Rob Zombie to say I was skeptical about the film was an understatement. The first Halloween is sacred text to me, and when script reviews came in along with some rather underwhelming production stuff my skeptism brewed into worry.

Right now though I want to run through the streets yelling “Merry Christmas Bedford Falls” because after suffering defeat at the hands of Busta Rhymes and the interweb Michael Myers is back and just as good as he ever was. Make no mistake this is the second greatest Halloween movie ever made. Rob Zombie has restored the grandeur and menace to one of the greatest horror icons in Cinema one who had long since lost it, and I can only say “Thank you”. And I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

Why not start at the beginning, the much maligned Michael the early years. While this part of the film has flaws its not the disaster that many thought it would be. Zombie doesn’t explain Myer’s evil so much as show it brewing. We sense that Michael himself doesn’t quiet understand why he does the things he does and this dichotomy between a truly this confused young boy and the evil that he does makes for some truly terrifying scenes.

Special mention must be mentioned of Sheri Moon. Sheri Moon played the psychotic baby in Zombies Firefly films, and I must admit while I thought she did a fine job there I assumed that was the only note she had. I was shocked to see her playing such an older sadder person. You see the lines on her face, and her sadness as she’s stuck in a life she can tell she never wanted for herself, working a shit job she’s becoming to old for and married to an asshole, with one daughter heading down the path she herself tripped down, a son who has needs she can’t fufill, and a new baby to see. Moon shows us the characters true desperation and despair and it is incredibly heart breaking.

The sequences in the Mental hospital are the most Zombie like of the picture with his regulars like Danny Trejo and Bill Mosely, showing up and crazy ultraviolence being the order of the day. But then the tone shifts again and when Myers comes home he treats the whole thing not like a giddy slashfest, but almost like a Greek tradegy as a man commits horrible acts driven not by human weakness but by his nature. And here is where we come to the key to the whole thing and why I just might think Halloween is one of the best horror movies in the past five years.

He treats this shit like its actually happening.

About 2/3rds of the way through the film I was shocked to find myself thinking, “Holy shit I actually care about these people.” And the sad thing is I can’t remember the last time that actually happened in a horror film. How many people in all the Saws and Hostels or whatever did you care about above the knee jerk empathic reaction of “Gee that would suck if that happened to me?” None it’s that simple.

Which leads to the second big surprise on the level of Sheri Moon’s acting ability. Rob Zombie can write normal people. While the Firefly clan and their satellites where fun and well written in his first two films, the normals could politely be called “weakly written” and impolitely called “bad”. The kids dialogue was great not just pat cute banter, the teenage girls fairly realistic, and most surprisingly of all the Strode’s homelife was warm and convincing when (SPOILERS) Michael visits them I felt a my stomach drop and not cause it was “cool” or “really ****ed up dude” but because in the short scenes they had Zombie got me to like these people and care about them, I didn’t want to see anything bad happen to them. Amazing (End SPOILERS)

In speaking of which Scout Taylor Compton, who fills in for Jaime Lee gives off such intelligence, strength, and warmth that I find it hard to believe that she is not just as destined for stardom as her predecessor. Maybe the roles charmed who knows? Oh and in case I haven’t mentioned it this shit is scary to. The scene in the pool? Brrr…

Anyway this is a fantastic film that while not as good as the first, stands well on its own two feet. I’ll see it again this August, and proudly display it next to the original when it comes out on DVD. So Mr. Zombie as one fan to another I want to thank you again, from the bottom of my heart.

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Post by Charlie surfs again » 29 Aug 2007, 12:28

Evo ga na DC++ workprint i za jedno 4 chuke ce biti pred-premijera :D :twisted:
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Post by HorrorHR » 30 Aug 2007, 18:07

http://www.dreadcentral.com/?name=Revie ... nt&id=1608

zaključak:

The new Halloween may not be the worst film in the franchise (that honor still goes to Resurrection), but it’s the very definition of a moron movie that takes itself too seriously. No doubt its style and ultra-violence will score big with the teen crowd - particularly those numbskulls who thought the original was boring – but genre and series fans will be far less forgiving. It’s a shame, because Rob Zombie has proven himself to be a talented filmmaker and if he had strived to once again push himself in new directions, we might have had something here.

Now can we stop these fucking remakes already?

:D :D

I još jedan poražavajući 3/10:

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/review/591

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Post by Unreal » 30 Aug 2007, 20:09

Meni je opčenito Michael Mayers je***o dosadan lik, kao i cjeli serijal ako se zbroje oni usrani nastavci.

A ovajk remejk je napravljen za mlađu publiku , to sam več prije shvatio i vidio sam da mi neče biti nekaj.

Kada će već jednom ubiti taj serijal? Da je John Carpenter mrtav okretao bi se u svom grobu.

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Post by maddjuro » 30 Aug 2007, 20:24

zA 30-ak min će se skinut, pa me baš zanima kakvo su sranje to napravili
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Post by Charlie surfs again » 30 Aug 2007, 21:29

Reci cu samo da nisam neki fan Karpenterovog filma iz '78 tj. jedino shto mi se zaista svidelo u tom fimu je sam pochetak kada klinac ide sa maskom po kuci i naravno ona opaka muzikica. Al zato sam vel'ki fan Rob Zombia tako da me ne treba uzeti kao kompetentnog shto se tiche ove tematike. Naime svideo mi se ovaj "rimejk" prvenstveno iz 5 razloga :

1. Rob Zombi je KRALJ !!! :D

2. Za razliku od originala ovde svako zashto ima svoje zato...

3. Po prvi put upoznajemo Majklovu licnost gde on nije nikakav neunishtivi bugimen i slichne baljezgarije zbog kojih nisam voleo serijal...

4. Ovo nije klasichan slesher jer ih u biti zaista ne volim, smaraju me, ovo je vishe "Zombi psychotic serial killer rampage slesher" da ga tako krstim :twisted:

5. Majkl je bio dojaja lik kad je bio klinac ;) :mrgreen:
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Post by Boby » 30 Aug 2007, 21:48

Unreal wrote:Meni je opčenito Michael Mayers je***o dosadan lik, kao i cjeli serijal ako se zbroje oni usrani nastavci.

A ovajk remejk je napravljen za mlađu publiku , to sam več prije shvatio i vidio sam da mi neče biti nekaj.

Kada će već jednom ubiti taj serijal? Da je John Carpenter mrtav okretao bi se u svom grobu.

Bila bi velika šteta ubiti serijal i lišiti filmografiju horrora sa tako prigodnim naslovom kao što je "Halloween", bez obzira kakvo sranje napravili. Tu se slažem s Jamie Lee Curtis koja je nakon snimanja "Resurrectiona" izjavila kako je serijal jedna dragocjena franšiza od koje se ne bi smjelo odustati bez obzira što ona u njemu više neće glumiti

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Post by Unreal » 30 Aug 2007, 22:05

Boby wrote: Bila bi velika šteta ubiti serijal i lišiti filmografiju horrora sa tako prigodnim naslovom kao što je "Halloween", bez obzira kakvo sranje napravili. Tu se slažem s Jamie Lee Curtis koja je nakon snimanja "Resurrectiona" izjavila kako je serijal jedna dragocjena franšiza od koje se ne bi smjelo odustati bez obzira što ona u njemu više neće glumiti
Bila bi isto velika šteta snjimiti još sedam glupih i nepotrebnih nastavka. Ma dobro neka ipak rade nastavke , ko zna možda nekad naprave neki dobri :wink: .
Šteta što nisu uzeli ideju od John Carpentera i snjimali filmove vezane za Noć vještica ,a ne Michael Mayersa. Ako se mene pita teško je snjimiti nastavak na odličan film kao Halloween , ali mislim da bar nije preteško napraviti zabavne nastavke kao one od Nightmare on Elm streeta, Friday the 13th i Child's playa. Navodno imaju u namjeri napravit novi Halloween 2 i 3 , nadam se da Rob Zombie neče sudjelovat u tim nastavcima i da će bar jedan ot tih nastavaka biti u svemiru. :lol:

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Post by HorrorHR » 30 Aug 2007, 22:50

Djuro20 wrote:zA 30-ak min će se skinut, pa me baš zanima kakvo su sranje to napravili
ako u zadnjih dva sata nije izašla nova verzija, gledat ćeš potpuno krivi film - workprint ima ako dobro pamtim 5-6 ubojstva manje + drugačiji kraj.

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Post by A$H » 30 Aug 2007, 23:15

HorrorHR wrote:
Djuro20 wrote:zA 30-ak min će se skinut, pa me baš zanima kakvo su sranje to napravili
ako u zadnjih dva sata nije izašla nova verzija, gledat ćeš potpuno krivi film - workprint ima ako dobro pamtim 5-6 ubojstva manje + drugačiji kraj.
baš si mi ukrao post kad sam njegov pročitao mislih mu isto napisat..lopove :lol:
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Post by HorrorHR » 30 Aug 2007, 23:19

A$H wrote:baš si mi ukrao post kad sam njegov pročitao mislih mu isto napisat..lopove :lol:
Preko foruma sam ti instalirao neki virus, pa ti preko tipkovnice čitam misli :P

Vratimo se ipak ontopic - Variety je isto tako popljuvao Zombiea.

A ovo, Dread Central i Bloody Disgusting što su ga total ispljuvali dosta znači, posebice jer tipa BD dobije brdo para od Lionsgatea ili koga već za promociju Halloweena.. Mislim svaki dan imaju neki video sa seta, jebeno dosadno, zamrzio sam film još unaprijed od toliko reklame.

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Post by Unreal » 30 Aug 2007, 23:22

HorrorHR wrote:Mislim svaki dan imaju neki video sa seta, jebeno dosadno, zamrzio sam film još unaprijed od toliko reklame.
Ja isto

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Post by A$H » 30 Aug 2007, 23:24

film mogu zamrzit tek kad ga pogledam radi ničega prije.. 8)
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